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matyldakwiatek: "White man > white Woman> Poc Man > POC Woman" Believing one race is better than others (or that one is worse, whatever) is racist. Sorry, it just is. You can't justify that just because some white people were bad. You know,America is not only country in world. My people, white Slavs, were first slaves EVER in history of Europe and we never own other races slaves in our whole over 1000 year old history. I agree with you on Moffats writing but please don't be like him, just in reverse

the-wolf-in-the-police-box:

mechanon:

dont-u-think-he-looks-tired:

mechanon:

dont-u-think-he-looks-tired:

matyldakwiatek:

dont-u-think-he-looks-tired:

That was said to point out how the status quo is right now in america. Because POC here are worse off than the “white” people.

Obvious of course by the people in power right now, senators, and state representatives, ect, being dominated mostly by “white” men.

I’m also not saying “white” women can’t suffer things like a WOC, but it has been shown time and time again the backlash  is worse for a WOC to speak out than it is for a “White” woman, and their aggressor depending on their race or the race of their victims, also varies on their sentences in jail.

There was even a video where a “white” woman was trying to steal a bike, and people offered to help. Later showing a black man trying to steal it and they reacted completely different. 

"White man > white Woman> Poc Man > POC Woman"

this example was used to show how a white man (at least in the USA and I’m guessing Britain) cannot accurately speak for a woman of color. 

because there’s too many factors to consider, when it come to gender bias and even race bias. Just like how Feminism is a tough subject for most men, Racism is a tough subject for most “white” people, and im sorry for making you uncomfortable, but 1,000 years is a very long time compared to 100 years ago, or even 50 years ago (Civil Rights Act of 1964).

(i used the term “white” because that is how they in the USA identify. )

Also just to point out:

Evidence of slavery predates written records, the practice of slavery would have proliferated after the development of agriculture during the Neolithic Revolutionabout 11,000 years ago.

Slavery was known in civilizations as old asSumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization, including Ancient Egypt,Ancient China, the Akkadian Empire,Assyria,Ancient India,Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, the Islamic Caliphate, and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas.[13]Such institutions were a mixture of debt-slavery, punishment for crime, the enslavement of prisoners of war,child abandonment, and the birth of slave children to slaves

the one acting like moffat unfortunately is you, by saying

"not all white people" 

"My people where enslave first"

without any basis of claim.

Hell yeah, I used argument “not all white people”. You know why? Because “white people” is not one ethical group. Just like “black people” is not one ethical group. Saying whole group is better than others only because of the skin colour is racist. To prove my point, to show you how I have nothing to do with American slaves owner (except the fact they have same skin colour as me) I told you part of history of my country.

Racism is not tough subject for me. My country never owned other races slaves (I wrote “other races slaves” because yeah, obviusly in the history - or prehistory as examples you used - some group, usually poorer one, were used by more powerful one, but in one ethical group, at least in my ancestors’ world). Why I should be accused of that (you wrote “white people”, not “white people in America in the past” so I am included) and being told to shut up about racism when my ancestors also were opressed? According to your logic I should be able allowed to talk about that, because my ancestors were oppressed.

Point of my ask was to ask you to be a little more sensentive. It’s not nice to go to blog and read about being worse than others only becuase people, who looked similar to me in the past, did bad things and because of that I’m supposed to say sorry all the time and keep my head down. I’m not saying to German and Russian people I talk with, that they are worst people in the world, just because 70 years ago they did terrible things to my country (Poland durring WWII) and some of their leaders still are not too nice to us. Past is past, they are not responsible for what their granparents did.

I don’t live in America. Maybe you still have big problem with racism as you said, I don’t know. But we’re talking about European show, about British show. If you wanna accused your American white people of doing something, please use word ‘American white people’, okay? It’s still not wise to accused whole group of people of bad things only because of actions  some of their ancestors did, but that won’t be my concern any more and I won’t feel need to personal write to you.

Perhaps the fact that I mentioned before many times in my blog that i was  in fact Hispanic/mexican-american went unnoticed. 

But saying not all men, is like saying not all white people. Because, Yes there are some men who are fighting for feminism, and yes there is some “white” people who never owned slaves. 

But the majority of the white countries did, just like the majority of men are fighting against feminism.

It’s 2014 lets all face the facts that White people have more power than POC, because they do. that is why racism, and white washing exist.

Just like how men have more power than women. that is why Misogynistic people exist without any real consequences (like moffat, and most people in political power) exist.

Why are you getting offended if it doesn’t apply to you? (just like why are Moffat stans getting offended if they don’t believe it’s true)

Except you are arguing about British show. Completely ignoring our culture and how racism acts in Britain to overlay your American-centric world view. Then telling the people with more understanding that they’re wrong because it contradicts your American experience.

In Europe and therefore Britain, white is not the right term to describe the dominant social group.

The dominant group in Britain is visibly English, not Welsh, Irish, Scottish or any other european ethnicity, Constant casual racism is directed at anyone who does not fit the stereotypical English appearance and it gets worse if you are obviously and immigrant from any where but it’s constant and ignored. Your and other loud American voices constant white washing of racism in Europe is really useful to our dominant groups in letting them ignore the racism in their countries.

Give yourself a big round of applause for helping perpetuate oppression and fucking educate yourself.

You would have been correct in saying British male > British female > non-British male > non-British female but that encompasses a lot more people than POC.

yes unfortunately, it perhaps would have been better to say it that way, but for someone like Moffat who has a habit of making everyone in london white in Sherlock, and up until this season in Doctor who, i was judging him in “My American” way. 

Sherlock and Doctor Who being one of the few British show i watched, i guess i was judging Britain by the fact that their writers and producers, and lead actors and most co-stars, and background people, where are all “white”.

and the very few POC that did appear, were either criminals or gone in 10 minuets.

You are being blind again.

Moffat doesn’t just have a habit of making all of his characters white. He has a tendency of making all of his characters British, normally English.

Which in shows set in London and Cardiff is not just eradicating the large black, Indian, Pakistani, Chinese, Tamil, Korean,  Iraqi, Iranian, or Kurdish communities but also the Polish, Turkish, Serbian, Croatian, Russian, etc, etc communities.

The only non-British characters who have appeared were either criminals or disappeared in a few seconds. 

Your blind American eye doesn’t see half of the racism occurring in Moffat shows and you and other American SJWs shout down people living in the UK when we try to discuss racism occurring in our communities because “Whites can’t be racist to whites”. Your loud yelling is helping people like the English Defence League and UKIP get away with their racist agenda by being “white” and targeting “whites”.

You’re not talking about racism, you’re talking about ethnocentrism. All of those people are still white, but their ethnicity is different than the British. That’s a whole separate issue. Those people still have white privilege, because ethnicity is not on the same axis of oppression as race is. When we talk about racism, we’re referring to race, not ethnicity. The presence of one issue (ethnocentrism) does not negate the other (racism). Both are present and both are a problem. That post was just about the racism.

No I’m not but you’re arguing American academic sociology terms rather than anything in practical use but I can’t be bothered

posted 3 days ago with 37 notes  dont-u-think-he-looks-tired)

matyldakwiatek: "White man > white Woman> Poc Man > POC Woman" Believing one race is better than others (or that one is worse, whatever) is racist. Sorry, it just is. You can't justify that just because some white people were bad. You know,America is not only country in world. My people, white Slavs, were first slaves EVER in history of Europe and we never own other races slaves in our whole over 1000 year old history. I agree with you on Moffats writing but please don't be like him, just in reverse

dont-u-think-he-looks-tired:

mechanon:

dont-u-think-he-looks-tired:

matyldakwiatek:

dont-u-think-he-looks-tired:

That was said to point out how the status quo is right now in america. Because POC here are worse off than the “white” people.

Obvious of course by the people in power right now, senators, and state representatives, ect, being dominated mostly by “white” men.

I’m also not saying “white” women can’t suffer things like a WOC, but it has been shown time and time again the backlash  is worse for a WOC to speak out than it is for a “White” woman, and their aggressor depending on their race or the race of their victims, also varies on their sentences in jail.

There was even a video where a “white” woman was trying to steal a bike, and people offered to help. Later showing a black man trying to steal it and they reacted completely different. 

"White man > white Woman> Poc Man > POC Woman"

this example was used to show how a white man (at least in the USA and I’m guessing Britain) cannot accurately speak for a woman of color. 

because there’s too many factors to consider, when it come to gender bias and even race bias. Just like how Feminism is a tough subject for most men, Racism is a tough subject for most “white” people, and im sorry for making you uncomfortable, but 1,000 years is a very long time compared to 100 years ago, or even 50 years ago (Civil Rights Act of 1964).

(i used the term “white” because that is how they in the USA identify. )

Also just to point out:

Evidence of slavery predates written records, the practice of slavery would have proliferated after the development of agriculture during the Neolithic Revolutionabout 11,000 years ago.

Slavery was known in civilizations as old asSumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization, including Ancient Egypt,Ancient China, the Akkadian Empire,Assyria,Ancient India,Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, the Islamic Caliphate, and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas.[13]Such institutions were a mixture of debt-slavery, punishment for crime, the enslavement of prisoners of war,child abandonment, and the birth of slave children to slaves

the one acting like moffat unfortunately is you, by saying

"not all white people" 

"My people where enslave first"

without any basis of claim.

Hell yeah, I used argument “not all white people”. You know why? Because “white people” is not one ethical group. Just like “black people” is not one ethical group. Saying whole group is better than others only because of the skin colour is racist. To prove my point, to show you how I have nothing to do with American slaves owner (except the fact they have same skin colour as me) I told you part of history of my country.

Racism is not tough subject for me. My country never owned other races slaves (I wrote “other races slaves” because yeah, obviusly in the history - or prehistory as examples you used - some group, usually poorer one, were used by more powerful one, but in one ethical group, at least in my ancestors’ world). Why I should be accused of that (you wrote “white people”, not “white people in America in the past” so I am included) and being told to shut up about racism when my ancestors also were opressed? According to your logic I should be able allowed to talk about that, because my ancestors were oppressed.

Point of my ask was to ask you to be a little more sensentive. It’s not nice to go to blog and read about being worse than others only becuase people, who looked similar to me in the past, did bad things and because of that I’m supposed to say sorry all the time and keep my head down. I’m not saying to German and Russian people I talk with, that they are worst people in the world, just because 70 years ago they did terrible things to my country (Poland durring WWII) and some of their leaders still are not too nice to us. Past is past, they are not responsible for what their granparents did.

I don’t live in America. Maybe you still have big problem with racism as you said, I don’t know. But we’re talking about European show, about British show. If you wanna accused your American white people of doing something, please use word ‘American white people’, okay? It’s still not wise to accused whole group of people of bad things only because of actions  some of their ancestors did, but that won’t be my concern any more and I won’t feel need to personal write to you.

Perhaps the fact that I mentioned before many times in my blog that i was  in fact Hispanic/mexican-american went unnoticed. 

But saying not all men, is like saying not all white people. Because, Yes there are some men who are fighting for feminism, and yes there is some “white” people who never owned slaves. 

But the majority of the white countries did, just like the majority of men are fighting against feminism.

It’s 2014 lets all face the facts that White people have more power than POC, because they do. that is why racism, and white washing exist.

Just like how men have more power than women. that is why Misogynistic people exist without any real consequences (like moffat, and most people in political power) exist.

Why are you getting offended if it doesn’t apply to you? (just like why are Moffat stans getting offended if they don’t believe it’s true)

Except you are arguing about British show. Completely ignoring our culture and how racism acts in Britain to overlay your American-centric world view. Then telling the people with more understanding that they’re wrong because it contradicts your American experience.

In Europe and therefore Britain, white is not the right term to describe the dominant social group.

The dominant group in Britain is visibly English, not Welsh, Irish, Scottish or any other european ethnicity, Constant casual racism is directed at anyone who does not fit the stereotypical English appearance and it gets worse if you are obviously and immigrant from any where but it’s constant and ignored. Your and other loud American voices constant white washing of racism in Europe is really useful to our dominant groups in letting them ignore the racism in their countries.

Give yourself a big round of applause for helping perpetuate oppression and fucking educate yourself.

You would have been correct in saying British male > British female > non-British male > non-British female but that encompasses a lot more people than POC.

yes unfortunately, it perhaps would have been better to say it that way, but for someone like Moffat who has a habit of making everyone in london white in Sherlock, and up until this season in Doctor who, i was judging him in “My American” way. 

Sherlock and Doctor Who being one of the few British show i watched, i guess i was judging Britain by the fact that their writers and producers, and lead actors and most co-stars, and background people, where are all “white”.

and the very few POC that did appear, were either criminals or gone in 10 minuets.

You are being blind again.

Moffat doesn’t just have a habit of making all of his characters white. He has a tendency of making all of his characters British, normally English.

Which in shows set in London and Cardiff is not just eradicating the large black, Indian, Pakistani, Chinese, Tamil, Korean,  Iraqi, Iranian, or Kurdish communities but also the Polish, Turkish, Serbian, Croatian, Russian, etc, etc communities.

The only non-British characters who have appeared were either criminals or disappeared in a few seconds. 

Your blind American eye doesn’t see half of the racism occurring in Moffat shows and you and other American SJWs shout down people living in the UK when we try to discuss racism occurring in our communities because “Whites can’t be racist to whites”. Your loud yelling is helping people like the English Defence League and UKIP get away with their racist agenda by being “white” and targeting “whites”.

posted 3 days ago with 37 notes  dont-u-think-he-looks-tired)

matyldakwiatek: "White man > white Woman> Poc Man > POC Woman" Believing one race is better than others (or that one is worse, whatever) is racist. Sorry, it just is. You can't justify that just because some white people were bad. You know,America is not only country in world. My people, white Slavs, were first slaves EVER in history of Europe and we never own other races slaves in our whole over 1000 year old history. I agree with you on Moffats writing but please don't be like him, just in reverse

dont-u-think-he-looks-tired:

matyldakwiatek:

dont-u-think-he-looks-tired:

That was said to point out how the status quo is right now in america. Because POC here are worse off than the “white” people.

Obvious of course by the people in power right now, senators, and state representatives, ect, being dominated mostly by “white” men.

I’m also not saying “white” women can’t suffer things like a WOC, but it has been shown time and time again the backlash  is worse for a WOC to speak out than it is for a “White” woman, and their aggressor depending on their race or the race of their victims, also varies on their sentences in jail.

There was even a video where a “white” woman was trying to steal a bike, and people offered to help. Later showing a black man trying to steal it and they reacted completely different. 

"White man > white Woman> Poc Man > POC Woman"

this example was used to show how a white man (at least in the USA and I’m guessing Britain) cannot accurately speak for a woman of color. 

because there’s too many factors to consider, when it come to gender bias and even race bias. Just like how Feminism is a tough subject for most men, Racism is a tough subject for most “white” people, and im sorry for making you uncomfortable, but 1,000 years is a very long time compared to 100 years ago, or even 50 years ago (Civil Rights Act of 1964).

(i used the term “white” because that is how they in the USA identify. )

Also just to point out:

Evidence of slavery predates written records, the practice of slavery would have proliferated after the development of agriculture during the Neolithic Revolutionabout 11,000 years ago.

Slavery was known in civilizations as old asSumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization, including Ancient Egypt,Ancient China, the Akkadian Empire,Assyria,Ancient India,Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, the Islamic Caliphate, and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas.[13]Such institutions were a mixture of debt-slavery, punishment for crime, the enslavement of prisoners of war,child abandonment, and the birth of slave children to slaves

the one acting like moffat unfortunately is you, by saying

"not all white people" 

"My people where enslave first"

without any basis of claim.

Hell yeah, I used argument “not all white people”. You know why? Because “white people” is not one ethical group. Just like “black people” is not one ethical group. Saying whole group is better than others only because of the skin colour is racist. To prove my point, to show you how I have nothing to do with American slaves owner (except the fact they have same skin colour as me) I told you part of history of my country.

Racism is not tough subject for me. My country never owned other races slaves (I wrote “other races slaves” because yeah, obviusly in the history - or prehistory as examples you used - some group, usually poorer one, were used by more powerful one, but in one ethical group, at least in my ancestors’ world). Why I should be accused of that (you wrote “white people”, not “white people in America in the past” so I am included) and being told to shut up about racism when my ancestors also were opressed? According to your logic I should be able allowed to talk about that, because my ancestors were oppressed.

Point of my ask was to ask you to be a little more sensentive. It’s not nice to go to blog and read about being worse than others only becuase people, who looked similar to me in the past, did bad things and because of that I’m supposed to say sorry all the time and keep my head down. I’m not saying to German and Russian people I talk with, that they are worst people in the world, just because 70 years ago they did terrible things to my country (Poland durring WWII) and some of their leaders still are not too nice to us. Past is past, they are not responsible for what their granparents did.

I don’t live in America. Maybe you still have big problem with racism as you said, I don’t know. But we’re talking about European show, about British show. If you wanna accused your American white people of doing something, please use word ‘American white people’, okay? It’s still not wise to accused whole group of people of bad things only because of actions  some of their ancestors did, but that won’t be my concern any more and I won’t feel need to personal write to you.

Perhaps the fact that I mentioned before many times in my blog that i was  in fact Hispanic/mexican-american went unnoticed. 

But saying not all men, is like saying not all white people. Because, Yes there are some men who are fighting for feminism, and yes there is some “white” people who never owned slaves. 

But the majority of the white countries did, just like the majority of men are fighting against feminism.

It’s 2014 lets all face the facts that White people have more power than POC, because they do. that is why racism, and white washing exist.

Just like how men have more power than women. that is why Misogynistic people exist without any real consequences (like moffat, and most people in political power) exist.

Why are you getting offended if it doesn’t apply to you? (just like why are Moffat stans getting offended if they don’t believe it’s true)

Except you are arguing about British show. Completely ignoring our culture and how racism acts in Britain to overlay your American-centric world view. Then telling the people with more understanding that they’re wrong because it contradicts your American experience.

In Europe and therefore Britain, white is not the right term to describe the dominant social group.

The dominant group in Britain is visibly English, not Welsh, Irish, Scottish or any other european ethnicity, Constant casual racism is directed at anyone who does not fit the stereotypical English appearance and it gets worse if you are obviously and immigrant from any where but it’s constant and ignored. Your and other loud American voices constant white washing of racism in Europe is really useful to our dominant groups in letting them ignore the racism in their countries.

Give yourself a big round of applause for helping perpetuate oppression and fucking educate yourself.

You would have been correct in saying British male > British female > non-British male > non-British female but that encompasses a lot more people than POC.

posted 3 days ago with 37 notes  dont-u-think-he-looks-tired)

writingwithcolor:

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Writing with Color: Description Guide - Words for Skin Tone

We discussed the issue of describing People of Color by means of food in Part I of this guide, which brought rise to even more questions, mostly along the lines of “So, if food’s not an option, what can I use?” Well, I was just getting to that!

This final portion focuses on describing skin tone, with photo and passage examples provided throughout. I hope to cover everything from the use of straight-forward description to the more creatively-inclined, keeping in mind the questions we’ve received on this topic.

So let’s get to it.

S T A N D A R D  D E S C R I P T I O N

B a s i c  C o l o r s

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Pictured above: Black, Brown, Beige, White, Pink.

"She had brown skin.”

  • This is a perfectly fine description that, while not providing the most detail, works well and will never become cliché.
  • Describing characters’ skin as simply brown or beige works on its own, though it’s not particularly telling just from the range in brown alone.

C o m p l e x  C o l o r s

These are more rarely used words that actually “mean” their color. Some of these have multiple meanings, so you’ll want to look into those to determine what other associations a word might have.

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posted 6 days ago with 10,100 notes  writingwithcolor)

http://bittencupcake.tumblr.com/post/98283659524/floozys-the-most-fucked-up-thing-is-that-emma

floozys:

the most fucked up thing is that

emma watson

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made

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one of the most

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men inclusive

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feminist speeches

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i’ve heard in the longest time, and the result? the result from these men who claim that they would be all for feminism if it weren’t for all “the man…

(via purpleandorangesheep)

posted 1 week ago with 79,761 notes  floozys)

http://ivanova-is-god.tumblr.com/post/98223116101/mechanon-ivanova-is-god-i-want-to-find

mechanon:

ivanova-is-god:

i want to find whoever chose to use u and v for vectors and then do something to make them realise what a shit decision that was

it’s no worse than i,j,k which is the vector notation I learnt while simultaneously using k for spring stiffness, i for imaginary…

Lower case omega.

I was taking Mechanical Engineering and I think j was in my compulsory Electronics module.

posted 1 week ago with 16 notes  ivanova-is-god)

ivanova-is-god:

i want to find whoever chose to use u and v for vectors and then do something to make them realise what a shit decision that was

it’s no worse than i,j,k which is the vector notation I learnt while simultaneously using k for spring stiffness, i for imaginary numbers, and j for something I can’t remember.

posted 1 week ago with 16 notes  ivanova-is-god)

ivanova-is-god:

princess tiana: raises money on her own and starts her own business as a black woman in the fucking 20s
everyone:
princess anna: kinda saves her sister after getting played off as the silly quirky girl the entire movie
everyone: WHOA!!!! WHAT A FEMINIST!!!!! HOLY SHIT THE ONLY DISNEY PRINCESS TO EVER HAVE GIRL POWER!!!!!! HOLY SHIT!!!!!! HOLY SHI

Frozen came out at a time when Disney had the reputation to get larger audiences into the cinema.

Princess and the Frog was can be seen as the last of the Second Decline films it got positive reviews but was the first film in a decade that could boast that and whether it was or wasn’t the title and trailers indicated a genre of film people were tired of. Tiana being a black princess influenced the viewing figures on both sides, people looking for positive black representation weren’t trusting Disney at that time to provide it as well as racists not wanting to see a black princess.

Tiana is a better and far more feminist character than Anna but it’s also worth looking at the time when Princess and the Frog came out there were far view and less widely used mirco blogging platforms so people couldn’t walk out the cinema and say “Most feminist film eva!”

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posted 1 week ago with 158,391 notes  oceankins-remade)

sadynax:

Her chest looks like some care bear power heart lol

I think it looks kind of cool. Especially if you work the dark grey it to the hair.

Would the same dark brown on the skin work as low light near the temples?

posted 1 week ago with 133 notes  sadynax)

#B5

prettyarbitrary:

ellioop:

corpsereviver2:

solarbird:

suricattus:

unforth:

zerosociety:

knitmeapony:

knitmeapony:

A large part of my adult, career-related life has been lived by Susan Ivanova’s examples and wisdom.

i don’t really know who this is i think she’s from babylon 5 but AWESOME

Oh man.  MAN.  Man.  Lemme tell you about Susan Ivanova.

Susan Ivanova, second in command of Babylon 5, has been through a lot of shit.  First, off, Babylon 5 is a deliberate melting pot of a place where. after a really bad war, different species can come to seek peace.  Earthgov is skeptical about it.  The other species governments are skeptical about it.  As a result, the station often stands between the universe and very bad shit going down. 

Commander Ivanova is in charge of operations.  All the day to day stuff.  She handles it pretty well.

 

Mostly, anyway.

She is not here to put up with anyone’s shit.  Not even if you’re from Earth.

She’s second in command of a station with captains that are perpetually putting themselves and the station through a lot of political… well, ugly politics.  She’s often the one left behind, having to tell folks the Captain is not available and she’s in charge.  Honestly, for having to be the grownup among so many damned children, she’s very well liked. 

She’s not all business, though, she’s a great friend as well as commander, with a lovely, dry, gallows sense of humor.  I’m not sure there’s a person on the station who doesn’t have a private joke or at least a friendly word with her (provided they’re not fucking up her schedule).

Her family is Russian and Jewish, and it actually comes up from time to time.  She occasionally sends a shout out to god (she’s not practicing, iirc, but she still identifies as Jewish and keeps a few traditions), She commentates often on her Russian heritage.

Susan Ivanova: I know, I know. It’s a Russian thing. When we’re about to do something stupid, we like to catalog the full extent of our stupidity for future reference. 

She meets up with family and friends from her past and doesn’t shy away from them:

Lt. Cmdr. Susan Ivanova: So how are things back home? 
Rabbi Koslov: They change, they stay the same. Russia is Russia. Your father used to say: “If regret could be harvested, Russia would be the world’s fruit basket.” 

She had a rough time growing up - her mother was a telepath, and in this universe if you’re telepathic and human you have two options: join a quasi-militaristic organization called the PsiCorps that will immediately take you from your family and control your whole life (they even have a saying: the Corps is Mother.  The Corps is Father.  It’s as chilling as you think,); option two is to take some drugs that suppress your abilities.  Ivanova’s mother chose the second option, and after a long, ugly period suffering under the effects of the drug, she took her own life.

You can imagine Susan is not thrilled with anyone associated with the Psicorps. But when a Psicorps telepath named Talia Winters comes on board, some interesting things happen.

At first she avoids the hell out of her.

But then, eventually, Susan doesn’t mind her so much.

Talia reaches out, and turns up at Susan’s quarters late one night.

They actually become real friends.

And you know, they have scenes like this.

And then, when Talia is gone she confesses:

Susan also later falls in love with a man named Marcus Cole, which means for my money she’s the first bisexual lady in space that I ever saw on TV.  Possibly ever.

For all that though, for her friendships and lovely jokes and cuddly-as-a-cactus-flower appeal, they never ever forget how good she is at her job.  She is shatteringly competent.

She is a military commander, and from time to time, she shows it.

Also, she was airlocking people before it was cool.

The whole crew is in on the airlocking thing, really.  They support her airlocking habits.  It’s lovely of them to do.

In summation:

Commander Susan Ivanova, bisexual Russian Jewish space princess of my heart.  Forever.  Watch this show.

Always share St. Ivanova.

YEESSSS. Babylon 5 fandom, we yet live!!

And did we mention the part where she coopted part of the hydroponics bays so that she could grow coffee to prevent her from committing homicide?

Susan Ivanova is my queen.  Also my rebbe.

(I refuse to call her St Ivanova because what part of “Jewish” are we forgetting, thanks for the erasure).

#another on the endless list of shows I want to get around to watching

YES. Yes, you do. It has its problems, it’s the first show to do all its SFX by computer (Amigas with Video Toaster cards) and sometimes it looks it, and it starts slow but god damn once it gets going it is fucking amazing and awesome.

Also, Ivonava and Talia’s relationship is canon and confirmed and intent, and the only reason it stopped when it did is because Talia’s actress wanted to leave the show to do other things nobody cares about.

I have never watched this show but this makes me want to!

Everyone should watch B5. It’s a wonderful show with so much to give and such well realised characters that it grieves me that so many people have never heard of it. 

One of the best sci-fi shows ever.  Also one of the few shows to have a fixed plotline and finite story arc, and stick to it.

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